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		<title>By: Alex Fetcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Fetcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great site!312194efa9b1fca80fac2ebea831fd82
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s a lie. myspace is just everyone, and facebook is just everyone sweet, or in college.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that's a lie. myspace is just everyone, and facebook is just everyone sweet, or in college.</p>
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		<title>By: dumbmisunderstandings</title>
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		<dc:creator>dumbmisunderstandings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa: I assume you&#039;re the same Lisa who&#039;s been leaving hateful comments on danah&#039;s blog, and since no one&#039;s been responding directly to your flames, I wanted to do so. You don&#039;t seem to know anything about danah&#039;s work or her person, and if you did, you&#039;d know that she&#039;s anything but racist, she&#039;s a genuinely reflexive academic, and she&#039;s incredibly intelligent. She clearly labeled her essay as a work-in-progress, she clearly admitted its faults and anecdotal nature, and she never intended it to get out into the media in the way that it has.

&quot;Boyd should retract her essay and submit an apology to the media, who, for some inexplicable reason, has treated her essay as some &quot;definitive&quot; academic report.&quot;  WRONG.  The *media* should apologize to *danah* for &quot;treating her essay as some &#039;definitive&#039; academic report.&quot;  Danah made VERY clear that it&#039;s not, and the media who have presented it as if it IS a full-on academic report should be ashamed of themselves.  As should you, for spreading such hateful, negative sentiments to an author just trying to understand some (rather troubling) societal patterns that everyone is usually too f&#039;ing scared to talk about.  I don&#039;t know anything about you, but you&#039;re attempting to publicly humiliate someone who&#039;s attempting to understand and combat inequality: you&#039;re the insulting one.

Flame. Over.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa: I assume you're the same Lisa who's been leaving hateful comments on danah's blog, and since no one's been responding directly to your flames, I wanted to do so. You don't seem to know anything about danah's work or her person, and if you did, you'd know that she's anything but racist, she's a genuinely reflexive academic, and she's incredibly intelligent. She clearly labeled her essay as a work-in-progress, she clearly admitted its faults and anecdotal nature, and she never intended it to get out into the media in the way that it has.</p>
<p>"Boyd should retract her essay and submit an apology to the media, who, for some inexplicable reason, has treated her essay as some "definitive" academic report."  WRONG.  The *media* should apologize to *danah* for "treating her essay as some 'definitive' academic report."  Danah made VERY clear that it's not, and the media who have presented it as if it IS a full-on academic report should be ashamed of themselves.  As should you, for spreading such hateful, negative sentiments to an author just trying to understand some (rather troubling) societal patterns that everyone is usually too f'ing scared to talk about.  I don't know anything about you, but you're attempting to publicly humiliate someone who's attempting to understand and combat inequality: you're the insulting one.</p>
<p>Flame. Over.</p>
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		<title>By: YMM</title>
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		<dc:creator>YMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said in my earlier post, I had to reread it a few times to be clear that it was really an opinion essay rather than a substantiated and corroborated thesis.

I will say I think the premise is interesting. Keep in mind that all socio-economic and cultural groups and sub-groups have outlets, where they can congregate, meet others, and interact as a group with shared interests. So over time it will be interesting to see how social-networking sites can impact how individuals reach out and connect with others, perhaps moving outside of the boundaries of there preferred social group.

It is happening already, there are articles discussing the impact such sites have, such as this one from the New York magazine:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://nymag.com/news/features/27341/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://nymag.com/news/features/27341/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nymag.com/news/features/27341/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

But going from that type of piece, I would be interested in reading a formal ethnographic study that looks at the statistics of users along with the motives for how different user groups use these sites. Again, Boyd&#039;s essay is not an &#039;academic&#039; piece, and looking at what the Guardian Unlimited posted, well I just have to say who&#039;s the editor who approved it? Is it any wonder the blogosphere is so disgusted with the MSM.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2111488,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2111488,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2111488,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said in my earlier post, I had to reread it a few times to be clear that it was really an opinion essay rather than a substantiated and corroborated thesis.</p>
<p>I will say I think the premise is interesting. Keep in mind that all socio-economic and cultural groups and sub-groups have outlets, where they can congregate, meet others, and interact as a group with shared interests. So over time it will be interesting to see how social-networking sites can impact how individuals reach out and connect with others, perhaps moving outside of the boundaries of there preferred social group.</p>
<p>It is happening already, there are articles discussing the impact such sites have, such as this one from the New York magazine:</p>
<p><a href="http://nymag.com/news/features/27341/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://nymag.com/news/features/27341/" rel="nofollow">http://nymag.com/news/features/27341/</a></p>
<p>But going from that type of piece, I would be interested in reading a formal ethnographic study that looks at the statistics of users along with the motives for how different user groups use these sites. Again, Boyd's essay is not an 'academic' piece, and looking at what the Guardian Unlimited posted, well I just have to say who's the editor who approved it? Is it any wonder the blogosphere is so disgusted with the MSM.</p>
<p><a href="http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2111488,00.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2111488,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2111488,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: GLD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GLD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is apparent that some of Justin&#039;s readers have not read Ms Boyd&#039;s article but prefer to speak to what they think she has said.  Note that Justin has a link to the entire essay in his first sentence.

If one reads the entire essay he might want to temper his remarks.  But perhaps not.  Some readers may still find all sorts of politically ioncorrect things to make them upset.

This farm boy from Wisconsin with working class parents doesn&#039;t see the problem with presenting any hypothesis in an essay.  There is either eonough material to back up the hypothesis or there is not enough.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is apparent that some of Justin's readers have not read Ms Boyd's article but prefer to speak to what they think she has said.  Note that Justin has a link to the entire essay in his first sentence.</p>
<p>If one reads the entire essay he might want to temper his remarks.  But perhaps not.  Some readers may still find all sorts of politically ioncorrect things to make them upset.</p>
<p>This farm boy from Wisconsin with working class parents doesn't see the problem with presenting any hypothesis in an essay.  There is either eonough material to back up the hypothesis or there is not enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myspace, the largest social networking website, currently has 160-170 million active users, while Facebook has a much smaller number at approximately 1/5 the size.

As I don&#039;t have unlimited time to invest into &quot;social networking&quot; throughout the day,  I gravitate towards the service that has the largest user base available -- which happens to be Myspace.  Sure, I could spend as much time on Facebook, Friendster, Xanga, Orkut, LinkedIn (the list could continue), but as I value my time, Myspace simply has a much larger user base for networking and finding old friends.

I value my time, and the service which provides the &quot;best&quot; use of that time is that which I will choose to use.

The suppositions contained within this report seem to be baseless conjecture, but apparently a major news outlet felt compelled to pick up on it -- so bravo to its original author.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myspace, the largest social networking website, currently has 160-170 million active users, while Facebook has a much smaller number at approximately 1/5 the size.</p>
<p>As I don't have unlimited time to invest into "social networking" throughout the day,  I gravitate towards the service that has the largest user base available -- which happens to be Myspace.  Sure, I could spend as much time on Facebook, Friendster, Xanga, Orkut, LinkedIn (the list could continue), but as I value my time, Myspace simply has a much larger user base for networking and finding old friends.</p>
<p>I value my time, and the service which provides the "best" use of that time is that which I will choose to use.</p>
<p>The suppositions contained within this report seem to be baseless conjecture, but apparently a major news outlet felt compelled to pick up on it -- so bravo to its original author.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Boyd should retract her essay and submit an apology to the media, who, for some inexplicable reason, has treated her essay as some &quot;definitive&quot; academic report. And Justin Fox, I think you should at least explain why you found Boyd&#039;s paper so &quot;fascinating.&quot; Because I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fascinating at all, and it seems like many of the people who commented on your blog would agree. Boyd&#039;s essay is unintelligent and insulting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Boyd should retract her essay and submit an apology to the media, who, for some inexplicable reason, has treated her essay as some "definitive" academic report. And Justin Fox, I think you should at least explain why you found Boyd's paper so "fascinating." Because I don't think it's fascinating at all, and it seems like many of the people who commented on your blog would agree. Boyd's essay is unintelligent and insulting.</p>
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		<title>By: Breanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article has no facts to back it up.
I am a teen that are none of those things. I am not popular or an outcast and I have both Facebook and MySpace. They are two things just to have fun with online and to meet new people. That&#039;s it. End of story. If we want to talk about emo kids on Livejournal then that&#039;s a story. But generalizing Facebook and MySpace like that is completely derogatory. I think this article should be retracted.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article has no facts to back it up.<br />
I am a teen that are none of those things. I am not popular or an outcast and I have both Facebook and MySpace. They are two things just to have fun with online and to meet new people. That's it. End of story. If we want to talk about emo kids on Livejournal then that's a story. But generalizing Facebook and MySpace like that is completely derogatory. I think this article should be retracted.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone who was insulted by Boyd&#039;s paper, please post comments on her blog at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/06/25/woah_omg_reflec.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/06/25/woah_omg_reflec.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/06/25/woah_omg_reflec.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I think she owes Latinos, queers, outcasts, and other people an apology. She is clearly misinformed. If there is any &quot;divide&quot; going on, it has been caused by her uneducated essay.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone who was insulted by Boyd's paper, please post comments on her blog at: <a href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/06/25/woah_omg_reflec.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/06/25/woah_omg_reflec.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/06/25/woah_omg_reflec.html</a></p>
<p>I think she owes Latinos, queers, outcasts, and other people an apology. She is clearly misinformed. If there is any "divide" going on, it has been caused by her uneducated essay.</p>
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		<title>By: Yadgyu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yadgyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s unbelievable how quickly this posting spread to other media outlets...&quot;

No it isn&#039;t. Today&#039;s style of journalism thrives on speculation, sensationalism, and gossip. Thoroughly researched and well articulated articles are a thing of the past. There is a glut of information out there. It is not a news agency&#039;s job to do in-depth research and analysis. They have to grab the audience&#039;s attention from the other news agency down the street. Speed and hype are all that is necessary to make a story news today.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"It's unbelievable how quickly this posting spread to other media outlets..."</p>
<p>No it isn't. Today's style of journalism thrives on speculation, sensationalism, and gossip. Thoroughly researched and well articulated articles are a thing of the past. There is a glut of information out there. It is not a news agency's job to do in-depth research and analysis. They have to grab the audience's attention from the other news agency down the street. Speed and hype are all that is necessary to make a story news today.</p>
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